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America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« on: September 14, 2012, 02:29:26 AM »
It is from the UK paper the Independent so I don't know how believable this story is.
I guess we will see how it bans out.

Could be major hell to pay for Obama if the story turns out to be true.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html
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The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.

American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.

Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.

In the meantime a Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.

A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.

Senior officials are increasingly convinced, however, that the ferocious nature of the Benghazi attack, in which rocket-propelled grenades were used, indicated it was not the result of spontaneous anger due to the video, called Innocence of Muslims. Patrick Kennedy, Under-Secretary at the State Department, said he was convinced the assault was planned due to its extensive nature and the proliferation of weapons.

There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

Senator Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "I am asking my colleagues on the committee to immediately investigate what role al-Qa'ida or its affiliates may have played in the attack and to take appropriate action."

According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."

Wissam Buhmeid, the commander of the Tripoli government-sanctioned Libya's Shield Brigade, effectively a police force for Benghazi, maintained that it was anger over the Mohamed video which made the guards abandon their post. "There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film; they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."

Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.

An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa."

Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.

Mr Stevens' mother, Mary Commanday, spoke of her son yesterday. "He did love what he did, and he did a very good job with it. He could have done a lot of other things, but this was his passion. I have a hole in my heart," she said.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 02:39:39 AM »
Yeah, yeah, yeah...and Bush was warned that Mooslims were training to become airline pilots...and that there was an attack impending, (but nothing specific) and he did nothing...

It's easy to look back and say, "They were warned," it's not so easy to see any credibility to often vague warnings that may come from what may be unreliable sources.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2012, 02:55:42 AM »
I agree to a point.

The 9-11 warnings were very vague though. This was a little more specific. And the big question is why weren't the embassies warned and why weren't they on lock down at the time of the attacks?

These people died away from the embassy while at the 'safe' house. Had they been locked down they might have no died.

Highly unlikely this comes back to get Obama, but some heads at the state department could roll if they ignored the warnings.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 03:43:59 AM »
I agree to a point.

The 9-11 warnings were very vague though. This was a little more specific. And the big question is why weren't the embassies warned and why weren't they on lock down at the time of the attacks?

These people died away from the embassy while at the 'safe' house. Had they been locked down they might have no died.

Highly unlikely this comes back to get Obama, but some heads at the state department could roll if they ignored the warnings.
I read that Stevens himself was warned to beef up the security and decided not to do anything about it. Maybe he had a false sense of security seeing as those who actually reside in Bengahzi are rather fond of him and Americans, especially after we saved that city from total destruction at the hands of Gaddafi.
As of now they have one of more peole allegedly responsible for the attack in custody and are looking for more. In addition Libya has authorized drones to fly survelience on suspected camps of Jihadists and Al qaeda Sympathizers. We probably know where they all are seeing as we CIA and Special Forces on the ground during that uprising and I'm sure one of their duties was to track and locate potential  threats to our interests and the new Libyam Government. It's up to the Libyans if they want to do anything about it and I think after this they will agree to some operations.
 
Though this is a horrible tragedy this response could give Obama's Administration the opportunity to demonstrate strength like it has before when our interests or citizens have been threatened or attacked. I think Americans are a lot more comfortable with him at the helm in this situation than they would be with Willard who stupidly and carelessly used this tragedy as an opportunity to politicized it for his personal gain.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 04:31:16 AM »
You were doing good till the end Red, then you fell back into the partisan Romney hater.

What is your feeling about Obama's statement about Egypt
"I don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. They're a new government that is trying to find its way,"

Followed quickly by a correction from the White House:
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I think folks are reading way too much into this Ally is a legal term of art. We dont have a mutual defense treaty with Egypt like we do with our NATO allies. But as the president has said, Egypt is longstanding and close partner of the United States, and we have built on that foundation by supporting Egypts transition to democracy and working with the new government.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/13/white_house_clarifies_obama_s_statement_that_egypt_is_not_an_ally

If this was Romney making those statements the media would be all over it, but strangely they are ignoring them.

Romney makes a political statement and its the end of the world.

Obama suggests that an ally of ours for the last 30 years who we give over a billion a year to in aid may no longer be an ally and ehhhh... not worthy of mentioning on the news...

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 11:14:53 AM »
It was a deliberate message directed at the Leadership of Egypt. You are aware that it took two days before the President of Egypt to issue an apology for the events at our Consulate. It was also a message to those in the Egyptian Military whom we've had a close relationship in the past.
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after speaking with President Barack Obama in what the White House described as a review of the "strategic partnership between the United States and Egypt," Morsy directly criticized the attacks for the first time Thursday.
"Those who are attacking the embassies do not represent any of us," he said in comments from Brussels, Belgium, where he was visiting the headquarters of the European Union.
 
What Morsy may be saying: The Egyptian leader's modified statement came a day after Obama hinted at where things stand between the countries. "I don't think we would consider Egypt an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy," Obama said.

 
 
 
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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 11:45:28 AM »
Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor and presumed 2012 presidential candidate, to Politico:Image: Mitt RomneyCliff Owen        /        AP file       Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney   “Burning the Quran is wrong on every level. It puts troops in danger, and it violates a founding principle of our republic.”
Fucking apologist :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 01:59:49 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/14/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
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Shawn Turner, director of communications for U.S. National Intelligence, denied news reports that American officials had been warned of a possible attack.
"This is absolutely wrong," he said. "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. post in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

 
 

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 02:04:04 PM »

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 02:13:05 PM »
We can do this all day.
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=284684
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

Not that you can have an independent thought with a Democrat cock in your mouth.
Better than the Republican cock balls deep up your fat Tea Party ass bitch. See we can do this all day :nope:
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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2012, 02:32:55 PM »
Hahaha.. You are delusional.



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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2012, 02:40:52 PM »
Hahaha.. You are delusional.



Except the evidence to the contrary is evident with every one of your posts. You only get your tightey whiteys in a bunch when I post against Willard and the Republicans but never when others post about Obama and the Democrats.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2012, 02:45:57 PM »
You post nothing but partisan bullshit, I snicker at all of your political posts now - you have lost the inability to be neutral, and it's funny to see your hate of all things NOT Democrat.

It's pitiful.

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 02:50:35 PM »
You post nothing but partisan bullshit, I snicker at all of your political posts now - you have lost the inability to be neutral, and it's funny to see your hate of all things NOT Democrat.

It's pitiful.
You've been saying that from day one and you keep repeating yourself as if you are under the illusion that I give value to your opinion of my politics. :nope:

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Re: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 02:53:31 PM »
I don't give a fuck what you think, honestly. You are becoming more bitter everyday, and it is indeed pathetic.

When you start accusing myself, and others that we are jubilant that people died to further "our cause" - you lost it.

Now you are wringing your hands that Romney took pleasure int he new 9/11 attacks to further his agenda..

You are a sick person.